Marina's comments about Natalia

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (kohari) — Sun, 21 Jun 2009 11:12:25 GMT

i just thought marina's rant was way out in left field..i just kept shaking my head when i watched this episode..makes me think something is about to happen regarding marina and her mental stablility.
sallyann

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (Bayley Rose) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 16:43:55 GMT

Well, call me crazy, but my feeling is that Frank is a grown man. He doesn't need his little girl looking after him and trying to protect him. He should be doing that for himself. Yes, we all want to stick up for those we love, but Marina goes too far, sometimes. And, considering the fact that she's married to a man who has confessed to killing someone, and consideruing the shady tactics she used to keep Henry, she's got a lot of nerve telling anyone...

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (julielw) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 14:26:08 GMT

"You can be angry with someone, but it doesn't give you the right to make such sweeping intimate criticisms, and in such a disrespectful manner. JMO, but Marina could have made her point much more effectively and really put Natalia to shame had she not approached it with such arrogance."

I couldn't agree more.

"Buzz even has the guilty conscience of having hurt Frank himself."

Right. Which is why he doesn't throw stones. He knows...

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (ElizabethF) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 12:05:55 GMT

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (de light) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 10:20:11 GMT

I am comparing how Marina talked to Natalia with how Buzz talked to Natalia. Both have the same reasons to be angry with her, and actually the same history of watching Frank get hurt. Buzz even has the guilty conscience of having hurt Frank himself. However, he didn't go up to Natalia and start ranting and making off the wall judgments about how she lives her life. He was straightforward with her, but tactful. He didn't make it about judging her as a person, but specifically about...

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (julielw) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:30:33 GMT

"So many women have abused Frank, why pick on Natalia?"

Because of the fact that so many women HAVE abused (taken advantage of) Frank. When we see our loved ones constantly being hurt by other people sometimes we let it go, and we let it go, AND we let it go - until one day we just don't "let it go" anymore. We then end up unloading EVERYTHING onto the latest person (in a long line of people) that hurt the one we love. We make the latest person flip the bill...

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (Lighthouse) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 07:04:29 GMT

Marina is living on the edge right now and is getting paranoid of everyone. So many women have abused Frank, why pick on Natalia? He has let this happen to him over and over. Frank just tries too hard to please everyone and gets walked on instead. It's too bad the show has really never let him have an honest to goodness love. Marina is so afraid all the time, that she doesn't trust anyone anymore. But of course it was fine for her to come between Danny and Michelle and Dinah and...

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (testadoda) — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:35:33 GMT

I totally disagree. Marina saw her father left at the altar. Nat has not come out to the world. She needs to tell Marina the whole story. Why she ran, why Rafe ran and how Frank is just being a mentor to a troubled boy!!!!

Marina watched Nat come to town and pretty much take over Gus etc. I liked Nat at first,Rafe not so much, but he has a reason to be upset. Marina is her fathers daughter, and she has a right to tell Nat enough .You have hurt my father enough.JMO.

now...

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (ElizabethF) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 21:46:48 GMT

Agreed. She is overreacting, and IMO this is making her look more and more guilty of something. And the things she said to Shayne today were just out of line! (And stupid, she is putting thoughts into his head! Hello!)

She was wrong to bully Natalia. Also, in the long run, you never know, Nat may end up with Frankie, so she should watch her step! LOL!

i half expected Olivia to give Marina a piece of her mind today at Towers when she went up to them. I was disappointed!...

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (de light) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:40:27 GMT

Malar, thanks! It is nice talking to you too! Your posts always keep me on my toes.

I see where Marina is coming from in both situations, at least the very root of what she must be feeling, but she just overreacts so hugely that it is hard to care! Maybe it was just disconcerting to see her be so blunt with Natalia, who is not a particularly blunt person herself. Of course I have not thought of Marina as...

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (katsmeow) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 20:00:46 GMT

Lately, I have really disliked Marina's character a lot. I was getting so angry when she was making those comments about Natalia, and I, too, am no Natalia fan. She has come across in the past, in my opinion, to have compassion with the people she associates with. Lately, I have noticed it has been only about Marina. I feel she only seems to be caring about herself and not caring about the feeling and emotions of others. Mallet and Marina have unfortunately become my least...

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (julielw) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 18:52:06 GMT

I don't necessarily agree with Marina's tactics with either situation (Shayne and Natalia) but I CAN see where she's coming from. She IS afraid of losing Henry (and with all she's lost - I personally don't blame her). However, she needs to remember the person Shayne is and remember he's not out to hurt her. However, even though I can understand her concerns about losing Henry but - she should have definitely approached the situation much more calmly. At the very least,...

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (malar2002) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:33:18 GMT

I did not at all care for her attitude towards Shane when she found out that he is Henry's father,

That was so bizarre! It was so weird to see this monster of a Marina and connect her up with who she was in her previous incarnation, in love with Shayne and being very good to him!

and you can just see all of this coming back to bite her soon.

I really hope that the show makes it happen within the next three months, unless...

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (de light) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:18:35 GMT

Ditto Malar, I am not a Natalia fan but I found Marina's behaviour towards her to be incredibly unfair! And yeah, Marina does seem to be riding high right now. I did not at all care for her attitude towards Shane when she found out that he is Henry's father, and you can just see all of this coming back to bite her soon.

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (soapfan) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 15:33:05 GMT

I was disappointred Frank didn't tell her to take a long walk off a short pier! That little girl is riding way too high and its gonna be a painful fall down

Re: Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (malar2002) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:27:01 GMT

I agree with your analysis of Marina's behaviour in that scene. 'Random' is really right on about her comments on Natalia 'not taking control' of her life! Heaven knows that I am no Natalia fan, but I guess I have more reasons to dislike Marina's behaviour than that

Marina, the Kewpie Doll who had to have her own baby to play with, Marina the dolt, hurling insults at Natalia in this...

Marina's comments about Natalia

feeds@yuku.com (de light) — Fri, 19 Jun 2009 14:20:04 GMT

That whole thing struck me as weird. I get why Marina might not like Natalia much right now after she left Frank at the alter, but yelling at her for calling Frank to check up on Rafe? That seemed pretty bold, not to mention harsh. I can't see where Natalia is taking advantage of Frank when Frank was the one to volunteer to be Rafe's mentor and Rafe and Frank both made the decision to live together. Natalia doesn't even want that, she wants Rafe at home with her. So I...