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        <![CDATA[ He&#39;s so confused.  LOL!  Watching his Mom and Olivia - that has to be extremely confusing to him - I know alotta you here are ok with this storyline but I
gotta tell ya - it&#39;s not working for me.  I like Nat and Olivia being really good friends - but not romantically.  I can hardly stand to watch them.  LOL! 
I keep telling myself - they are only acting - this isn&#39;t real.     ]]>
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			<title><![CDATA[ Re: Poor Rafe!  ]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[ &quot;So far as I remember from all that I listened to in school, adultery is a mortal sin ...&quot;
<br>
<br>
We are saved by Grace through faith (in Christ alone) - not by our works. Thank God!:-) If the heart is repentant, one will receive God&#39;s forgiveness.
<br>
<br>
&quot;Oh, and I do not hold St. Paul to be the most tolerant and the most forgiving of Saints, and I am no fan of his, definitely. I am just citing him since
he is purported to have spoken on the subject, that is... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <br>
  <br>
  &quot;Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance,
  emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, <font size="6">drunkenness, revellings</font>, and such like: of the which I tell you
  before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God&quot; (Galatians 5:19-20).
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  <br>... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I too do not understand why, if Natalia is so religious, fornication and adultery were totally acceptable to her, but being a lesbian is not. All she had to do
was ask St. Paul:
<br>
&quot;Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance,
emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Loretta,
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AMEN!!!!!
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<br>
Thump thump thump ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Natalia is the type of person who gives religion a bad name.  So many people like her, act so religious as long as it suits their lifestyle.  Then if things
change, they have no qualms about changing their beliefs and expect others to go along with them.  How many times have we seen these famous preachers get
involved with young women or men for that matter?  I am always highly suspect of anyone that preaches religion to me.  I have seen it in my own church, with
the scandals with young boys.... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Agreed. Also, I am a lot happier with Fr. Ray after he told Rafe to &quot;man up and help&quot; Natalia. Thank you! Even though he does not approve of
Natalia&#39;s beliefs he is supporting her and I appreciated that. Too bad Rafe had to run out on the birthday like that. I really was surprised that Natalia
didn&#39;t start crying over that. I would have! (But with me, it never takes much! LOL!) ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ That has always been my confusion about the Otalia story. It makes sense on one hand because Natalia and Olivia did grow very close and were the two female
characters most &quot;eligible&quot; for this storyline, but...it is hard for me (and most of us, I am sure) to wrap my mind around Natalia acting on any
feelings she may have for Olivia. In real life, I don&#39;t think a woman with such strict beliefs would come around to this as quickly as she has, if at all.
That&#39;s why I feel so... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  I can certainly see where it might be harder than average for Natalia&#39;s child to cope with her falling off her pedestal, though, because she was the one
  who really put herself there.
  <br>
</blockquote>That is my thought, exactly. She was the single parent who brought him up, they must have been very close through the thick and the thin, so, this
might make it harder too.
<br>

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  Part of it is because Rafe has never come across to me as someone who... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  I miss Jerry Ver Dorn as Ross Marler on Guiding Light.
  <br>
</blockquote>GL broke my heart as well as the heart of the show itself, if you ask me, when they let JvD&#39;s Ross go.
<br>

<blockquote>
  I was a die hard fan of Clint and Viki when Clint Ritchie played the role of Clint Bunchanan.
  <br>
</blockquote>Same here, Sanda Lynn. That was the long-ago I meant.
<br>
<br>
I don&#39;t have a problem accepting JvD&#39;s Clint though - I just think of him as the... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ That is all very true, Malar. My initial reaction was to be annoyed with Rafe&#39;s intolerance, but I can easily see why he would feel that Natalia is being a
hypocrite and was actually very glad when he spoke with Father Ray and said that hypocrisy is the root of the problem for him. I don&#39;t want to see him as
someone who simply can&#39;t accept his mother&#39;s feelings or, even worse, someone who won&#39;t try. Part of it is because Rafe has never come across to me
as someone who... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I think it is actually one of those situations where strangers may show a person like Natalia greater kindness than anyone who has been close to her,
especially a child who was brought up by her with strict religious teachings.
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<br>
For a stranger who has never been inundated with the sights and sounds of Natalia&#39;s religiosity, it is very easy to see her simply as a human being and
accept her feelings for Olivia and so on, even after Natalia tells the stranger that she has always... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I&#39;m on the &quot;poor Rafe my butt&quot; bandwagon! Well. actually I do sympathize with him after his conversation with Father Ray (who is now on my nerves
over this whole thing, BTW. LOL). It makes sense to me that he would be confused and looking at Natalia as kind of a hypocrite right now, and that is all fair
enough. However, he has not given her the chance to explain anything. I think he really needs to do that...talk to her about how she can preach one thing and
do another, and what... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  I miss Jerry Ver Dorn as Ross Marler on Guiding Light.
</blockquote>
<br>
As do we all! <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/frown.gif">
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			<description><![CDATA[ <blockquote>
  <strong class="quote-title">malar2002 wrote:</strong>
  <hr>
  Welcome to our board, Sanda Lynn <img alt="image" src="http://pages.prodigy.net/indianahawkeye/signs02/21.gif">
  <br>
  <br>
  Glad to see that you too like Charlie and Viki together. They are very much alive together and keeping the meaning of romance in their lives, aren&#39;t
  they, these days! I used to be an undying fan of Viki and Clint too - long time ago that was.
  <br>
</blockquote>
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<br>... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ &quot;Poor Rafe my butt. You just got out of jail, you had no job, no money and were living off your mom. Teens like to say they are &quot;grown&quot; but they
have no idea. If he&#39;s so grown he would look at it like a man, not a baby.&quot;
<br>
<br>
Well I DO feel bad for Rafe. Yes, he DID just get out of jail for a crime that the victim refused to pressed charges over BUT Rafe took responsibility for his
actions, went to prison and did his time. Sounds like a person who is mature to me.... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ It&#39;s hard to believe that Rafe would have a hard time with Otilia.  After all, he is not religious, got his girlfriend pregnant and been in jail.  I would
think most kids his age and with his background would be ok with it.  I guess they needed this for a story.
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Loretta ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I don&#39;t personally don&#39;t see her as a predator but I think that they are making Rafe think of her that way. ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ I don&#39;t see O as a predator, btw. She left and gave them space to talk about it. I just don&#39;t hold that same opinion. Welcome to the board Sanda!
<img src="http://pages.prodigy.net/indianahawkeye/signs02/21.gif"> ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ Thanks Bailey Rose.
<br>
<br>
Poor Rafe my butt. You just got out of jail, you had no job, no money and were living off your mom. Teens like to say they are &quot;grown&quot; but they have
no idea. If he&#39;s so grown he would look at it like a man, not a baby.   
<br>
And Frank is no help. As a trained social worker, you NEVER put yourself in a families business. Frank is doing just that. By taking Rafe in he is saying your
mom is wrong and I take your side. Its ok to be prejudice really I... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ <em>Actually it made sense if you belive in certain ideals. Olivia and Nat both wanted Gus. Gus died convinently and Liv got his heart (hence a piece of him)
Well if you believe love is an emotion of the &quot;Heart&quot; why wouldn&#39;t Liv have fallen for Nat? I look at it as more Gus&#39; heart loves Nat and Liv
is just a vehicle for that heart. Liv&#39;s personality also changed once she accepted Gus&#39; heart and started to live again. Besides no one ever asks to
love someone, it just... ]]></description>

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			<description><![CDATA[ He&#39;s so confused.  LOL!  Watching his Mom and Olivia - that has to be extremely confusing to him - I know alotta you here are ok with this storyline but I
gotta tell ya - it&#39;s not working for me.  I like Nat and Olivia being really good friends - but not romantically.  I can hardly stand to watch them.  LOL! 
I keep telling myself - they are only acting - this isn&#39;t real.    <img src="http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif"> ]]></description>

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